Subject	i had this debate with most of zhome.com, including the
Posted by	davidztt on July 03, 2006 at 3:18 AM
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In Reply To	I need to Vent posted by Kevinbonds on July 03, 2006 at 12:22 AM
Message	owner guy of the website. most of them felt quite antagonistic against the Z32, considering it to be too far removed from the original Z concept. when it was made known that the Z33 would not out-perform the Z32, but would simply be an attempt to re-capture the essence of the 240Z, most of them applauded. myself and other Z32 owners made it clear that reducing performance with the Z33 just didn't make any sense. a company should always strive to further it's performance specs. note, i got kicked out of zhome.com and moved over here on the recommendation of Jimbo, and it's a better place for me to be. vette schmette! if it's so cool, go trade. Zs rule! - davidztt 03:02:45 07/02/06 If I could trade, I would. - Kenny 03:08:22 07/02/06 (0) "We don't care." (n/m) - YugoBernie (NoVA) 14:17:25 06/16/06
Follow Ups	I need to Vent - Kevinbonds 00:22:50 07/03/06 Re: I need to Vent - SactoTodd 00:29:01 07/03/06 28K today vs 35k back then - js9krcr01040 00:35:29 07/03/06 please define "walk". (n/m) - SactoTodd 00:40:27 07/03/06 whoops dat ass ;-) (n/m) - smoke TTZ 01:13:48 07/03/06 A drag strip is not the only form of racing ;) (n/m) - IBPimpn 13:02:21 07/03/06 Did you make it out to watch Nascar at Sears?? - SactoTodd 13:15:18 07/03/06 Not this year. I was supposed to hang out at the KLS - IBPimpn 14:26:06 07/03/06 VG an engineering marvel? - WhiteZed 00:58:24 07/03/06 2nd Z32 > Z33 every day of the week - zxtuner161 01:20:45 07/03/06 Re: 2nd Z32 > Z33 every day of the week - SactoTodd 01:25:57 07/03/06 He sees how much I work on my car - zxtuner161 01:36:46 07/03/06 so he wouldn't take one any day, as you stated. (n/m) - SactoTodd 01:41:53 07/03/06 He would...if it was brand new with a warrenty like the G - zxtuner161 01:43:03 07/03/06 Prob. because your post is a bit pointless. (n/m) - YugoBernie (NoVA) 01:44:35 07/03/06 Not picking it apart. - SactoTodd 01:48:00 07/03/06 Thats the thing - zxtuner161 01:52:37 07/03/06 he must go through cars like it was bubblegum then...... - Initial Z 02:10:20 07/03/06 For your information - zxtuner161 02:16:34 07/03/06 i really must say, holding the position of not wanting to - davidztt 03:06:05 07/03/06 All I know is I have had HORRIABLE experiences - zxtuner161 03:10:45 07/03/06 but if he doesn't want to pay someone who can do it for him, - davidztt 03:23:01 07/03/06 yes, thats what i was trying to get at...... :) (n/m) - Initial Z 03:39:28 07/03/06 re-read my post - zxtuner161 03:49:55 07/03/06 Are you sure about this? - 92fairladyz (Yokosuka, Japan) 01:31:23 07/03/06 brakes and injector's are the only flaws I see - zxtuner161 01:39:50 07/03/06 Injectors? - Broke_as_**** 01:43:42 07/03/06 Re: Injectors? - zxtuner161 01:46:40 07/03/06 Once you start going over 15-16psi on stock turbos - Broke_as_**** 01:53:36 07/03/06 I believe that occurs at 18psi? - zxtuner161 01:56:44 07/03/06 See Ashs post below - Broke_as_**** 02:27:26 07/03/06 Re: See Ashs post below - zxtuner161 02:44:42 07/03/06 When talking about efficiency of a turbocharger, you are - Ash's Z 02:52:44 07/03/06 Well, adequate intercooling will allow you to take advantage - Ash's Z 02:04:18 07/03/06 No argument on that - Broke_as_**** 02:18:59 07/03/06 I disagree on the injectors. - 92fairladyz (Yokosuka, Japan) 02:04:19 07/03/06 My main comparison - zxtuner161 02:10:07 07/03/06 ^^add intercooler to "BPU" Z list (n/m) - zxtuner161 02:10:50 07/03/06 Can't argue the fuel pump. (n/m) - 92fairladyz (Yokosuka, Japan) 04:27:33 07/03/06 They cheaped out on cleaning the casting flash too. - Ebola (Edm'ish) 14:39:45 07/03/06 VG30DETT: Forged rods from the factory, cast iron - Ash's Z 01:49:03 07/03/06 The GTR isn't going to look like that fugly concept is it? (n/m) - FairladyZ4U2NV 01:58:15 07/03/06 questions - SactoTodd 01:58:55 07/03/06 Re: questions - Ash's Z 02:07:25 07/03/06 ^thats what my dad's takes (n/m) - zxtuner161 02:11:40 07/03/06 G35 manual states "above 91 octane" (n/m) - dpjax 07:37:25 07/03/06 not necessarily hardware, but the tailpipe limit - SactoTodd 09:24:24 07/03/06 As far as looks... Z32 > G35 > Z33 - dpjax 07:39:15 07/03/06 2nd (n/m) - Zlicious (Seattle) 12:09:26 07/03/06 "vicariously" ? - Kenny 08:26:57 07/03/06 Yeah, a stretch of the use of the word... - Ash's Z 14:00:17 07/03/06 I think you just needed another 5 syllable word to meet your - Kenny 14:14:15 07/03/06 Nah, it was intentionally put in there to bait your sarcasm. - Ash's Z 14:18:27 07/03/06 kinda like when you say "for all intensive purposes"? (n/m) - Spee 14:20:39 07/03/06 Oh, yeah, that's on purpose guys. Haha, got you! - Kenny 14:24:51 07/03/06 Well, not exactly. Its more like understanding the - Ash's Z 14:28:20 07/03/06 thats a 2 way street. - Spee 14:34:13 07/03/06 Oh definately. Its a lot of the driving mechanism within - Ash's Z 14:41:43 07/03/06 are you not aware that the actual term is... - Spee 14:51:16 07/03/06 I'm sorry - I didn't know that intensive or purposes were - Ash's Z 16:18:28 07/03/06 They are, but you've been misusing them. - Kenny 16:56:09 07/03/06 He lives in a house of cards - colocomp (Denver) 16:25:59 07/03/06 Resorting to personal attacks is, well......... - Ash's Z 16:36:19 07/03/06 Truth = Truth - colocomp (Denver) 16:44:29 07/03/06 Opinion =/= Truth. - Ash's Z 17:08:23 07/03/06 Perception - - colocomp (Denver) 17:25:29 07/03/06 You are aware you look like an ass from your posts right? - Riddick 10:55:21 07/04/06 lol - colocomp (Denver) 11:09:04 07/04/06 I heard from a Nissan Master tech that the Nissan GT-R - The Devils Z 09:44:38 07/03/06 you need to stop hearing things. - Spee 12:49:14 07/03/06 All things being equal, it wouldn't matter if it were a - Ash's Z 14:31:37 07/03/06 exactly my point. - Spee 14:36:43 07/03/06 Well, Dee and I have had many conversations about engine - Ash's Z 16:26:57 07/03/06 How many other motors that have "non iron" blocks - The Devils Z 10:14:33 07/04/06 I read in a magazine that over 450,000 Z33's have been sold. - jmw23712 10:52:30 07/03/06 Please refrain from using the "power per liter" argument - Marshall 13:12:21 07/03/06 Ash's brain makes 10 IQ/liter. (n/m) - Kenny 14:15:01 07/03/06 Well, it is a rather effective parameter to consider when - Ash's Z 14:15:56 07/03/06 Not really. - Kenny 14:20:43 07/03/06 It depends on which measure of efficiency you are - Ash's Z 14:26:10 07/03/06 lol - Kenny 14:32:28 07/03/06 They are much closer than I think you are giving credit for. - Ash's Z 14:54:14 07/03/06 So in conclusion, they aren't synonymous. - Kenny 15:37:33 07/03/06 They are synonymous. - Ash's Z 16:09:03 07/03/06 Again, they are not. - Kenny 16:52:50 07/03/06 Re: Again, they are not. - Ash's Z 18:35:45 07/03/06 So in conclusion: - Kenny 19:07:00 07/03/06 Re: So in conclusion: - Ash's Z 15:59:40 07/04/06 The Z32 was designed and engineered to compete with - golden_1 01:58:40 07/03/06 if anything, the Z33 is the "sell out" of the Z cars - LJZTT 02:08:35 07/03/06 I like the 350z because its a z, but for sure 3Z > 350 - trueyungasian 02:21:37 07/03/06 Take what they say with a grain of salt - trueyungasian 02:30:15 07/03/06 i had this debate with most of zhome.com, including the - davidztt 03:18:02 07/03/06 I don't recall that debate, and I've been on the IZCC - Barry'z (NJ) 08:25:14 07/03/06 simple, happened before 5 years ago, Jimbo brought me over - davidztt 16:24:19 07/03/06 Ive driven a couple 350s - Ballistic 08:49:16 07/03/06 Wow what a burn... (n/m) - Zownr4life 11:19:18 07/03/06 and you bought a 350 because...? (n/m) - Spee 12:36:06 07/03/06 Pffft.... - WAGGZ 13:06:30 07/03/06 The fact its a 350z site makes it a little bias, - Ebola (Edm'ish) 14:45:00 07/03/06
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